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As you continue to develop the article with your focus of finding out and comparing the elements which modify RR nouns,or even RR NPs themselves,can we put the following in consideration;
 
As you continue to develop the article with your focus of finding out and comparing the elements which modify RR nouns,or even RR NPs themselves,can we put the following in consideration;
1.=Structual Elements=
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1=Structual Elements=
 
The three components of Noun and NP modification as advocated by Greenbaum.S& Quick.R's <ref> Greenbaum.S& Quick.R.(2007:363) A Student's Grammar of the English Language.Longman,England.</ref> (2007), which i think apply to RR since it is also an SVO word order language.These include;a) The head, b) The premodification   
 
The three components of Noun and NP modification as advocated by Greenbaum.S& Quick.R's <ref> Greenbaum.S& Quick.R.(2007:363) A Student's Grammar of the English Language.Longman,England.</ref> (2007), which i think apply to RR since it is also an SVO word order language.These include;a) The head, b) The premodification   
 
c) The postmodification.
 
c) The postmodification.
 
In line to the above, i think it is important to have examples of both simple RR NPs like <Phrase>16793</Phrase> and complex RR NPS like <Phrase>16804</Phrase>. or <Phrase>20082</Phrase>
 
In line to the above, i think it is important to have examples of both simple RR NPs like <Phrase>16793</Phrase> and complex RR NPS like <Phrase>16804</Phrase>. or <Phrase>20082</Phrase>
 
The above can help us to compare their elements and even see how far the RR NP can stretch.
 
The above can help us to compare their elements and even see how far the RR NP can stretch.
2.=Semantic implications=
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2=Semantic implications=
 
As you go on to find the possible semantic implications of shifting positions of elements within RR NP, bear in mind that some NP may involve incompatible semantic features, therefore this is likely to limit the supposedly multiple meaning a NP may attract. Rugemalira J. M. (2007), has it that Semantic considerations may indicate that two elements cannot co-occur.
 
As you go on to find the possible semantic implications of shifting positions of elements within RR NP, bear in mind that some NP may involve incompatible semantic features, therefore this is likely to limit the supposedly multiple meaning a NP may attract. Rugemalira J. M. (2007), has it that Semantic considerations may indicate that two elements cannot co-occur.
 
According to Rugemalira J. M.<ref> Rugemalira J. M.(2007)The Structure of the Bantu Noun Phrase
 
According to Rugemalira J. M.<ref> Rugemalira J. M.(2007)The Structure of the Bantu Noun Phrase

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Thank you for your article about Bantu noun phrases especially as you specifically focus on RR NP.Its good you highlighted some dependant elements which modify RR nouns as seen from your example, http://typecraft.org/tc2wiki/Special:TypeCraft/Editor/1078/12865

As you continue to develop the article with your focus of finding out and comparing the elements which modify RR nouns,or even RR NPs themselves,can we put the following in consideration; 1=Structual Elements= The three components of Noun and NP modification as advocated by Greenbaum.S& Quick.R's [1] (2007), which i think apply to RR since it is also an SVO word order language.These include;a) The head, b) The premodification c) The postmodification.

In line to the above, i think it is important to have examples of both simple RR NPs like
Enkyende emwe
“One monkey”
Enkyende
enkyende
IV9monkey
N
emwe
emwe
9one
QUANT
and complex RR NPS like
Buri ibara kitabo kyona ekyangye ekihango munonga
“Every book of mine that is very big”
Buri
buri
every
QUANT
ibara
ibara
every
QUANT
kitabo
 
book7
N
kyona
kiona
7all
QUANT
ekyangye
ekyangye
DEF7mine
PNposs
ekihango
ekihango
DEF7big
ADJ
munonga
munonga
very
ADVm
. or
omukazi muraingwa ogwo oyemereire omushonda y'enju owaanyiiga ahabwokuba waasheka n'omwishiki muhango mugufu oshutami aha kitebe ekyo ekikuzire
“That tall woman standing in the corner of the house who has become angry because you have laughed with the short big girl seated on that old stool”
omukazi
omukazi
IV1woman
N
muraingwa
muraingwa
1tall
ADJ
ogwo
ogwo
IV1AGRthatMEDIAL
DEM
oyemereire
oyemereire
2SGstandPROG
V
omu
omu
 
PREP
nshonda
nshonda
9corner
N
ya
ya
 
PNposs
enju
enju
IV9house
N
owaanyiiga
owaanyiiga
whoRELPASTimbecome-angryIND
REL
ahabwokuba
ahabwokuba
because
CONJ
waasheka
waasheka
2SGPASTimlaughIND
V
na
na
 
CONJ
omwishiki
omuishiki
IV1girl
N
muhango
muhango
1big
ADJ
mugufu
mugufu
1short
ADJ
oshutami
oshutami
2SGsit 
V
aha
aha
on
PREP
kitebe
kitebe
7stool
N
ekyo
ekio
IV7that
DEM
ekikuzire
ekikuzire
73SGoldSTAT
V

The above can help us to compare their elements and even see how far the RR NP can stretch. 2=Semantic implications= As you go on to find the possible semantic implications of shifting positions of elements within RR NP, bear in mind that some NP may involve incompatible semantic features, therefore this is likely to limit the supposedly multiple meaning a NP may attract. Rugemalira J. M. (2007), has it that Semantic considerations may indicate that two elements cannot co-occur. According to Rugemalira J. M.[2](2007:325),because of semantic restrictions on the co-occurrence of the elements of the noun phrase, it is reasonable to argue that it is not possible to expand the phrase indefinitely since the restrictions have a cumulative effect



References

  1. Greenbaum.S& Quick.R.(2007:363) A Student's Grammar of the English Language.Longman,England.
  2. Rugemalira J. M.(2007)The Structure of the Bantu Noun Phrase University of Dar es Salaam, http://www.soas.ac.uk/linguistics/research/workingpapers/volume-15/file37804.pdf /