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| + | ====Negative Marking in Runyankore-Rukiga====  | ||
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| + | Runyankore-Rukiga is a Bantu languages spoken in Uganda.   | ||
| + | The negative particle is ''ti''. This prefix can occur attached to a pronoun which agrees anaphorically or cataphorically  | ||
| + | with a noun to express negation of noun phrases:  | ||
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| + | <Phrase>10705</Phrase>  | ||
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| + | sry, I would have to look up the noun class for flower in the example above :(, but the interesting point here is that we see the fusion of negation and a pronominal element. The function of this grammatical unit in RR is not to express pronoun negation, that is 'not-them',  but rather to mediate nominal negation for a nominal that they 'phorically' relate to.  | ||
| + | --[[User:Dorothee Beermann|Dorothee]] 18:20, 16 December 2009 (UTC)  | ||
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| + | As for the glossing of ''baa'', Mary writes:  | ||
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| + | Actually the *baa* 'they-not' should have had a 'did' in the middle of the  | ||
| + | English gloss, as it means 'they-(did)-not' (go) etc., likewise the other  | ||
| + | negative pronouns.    | ||
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| + | So, also for Konkomba ''baa'', the meaning is not 'not-them', but rather something looking similar to the meaning suggested in the gloss for the Runyankore-Rukiga form.  | ||
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| + | --[[User:Lars Hellan|Lars Hellan]] 20:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)  | ||
Latest revision as of 20:25, 16 December 2009
On negative marking in Konkomba
Is there a grammatical term for a lexical entry made up of two different parts of speech fused together? Could we call it a 'negative conjunction', or is there a more technical term?
I would suggest to annotate kaa and baa as follows:
| Kaa | |
| k | aa | 
| NEG | |
| CONJ | |
| baa | |
| b | aa | 
| 3PL | NEG | 
| PN | |
At the point were TypeCraft will allow to record base forms of words and morphemes it will also be possible to add that k has the base form ki and b
has the base form bi.
--Dorothee 18:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Negative Marking in Runyankore-Rukiga
Runyankore-Rukiga is a Bantu languages spoken in Uganda. The negative particle is ti. This prefix can occur attached to a pronoun which agrees anaphorically or cataphorically with a noun to express negation of noun phrases:
| tikyo | |
| ti | kyo | 
| NEG | 3SG | 
| PN | |
| kirabyo | 
| kirabyo | 
| flower | 
| N | 
sry, I would have to look up the noun class for flower in the example above :(, but the interesting point here is that we see the fusion of negation and a pronominal element. The function of this grammatical unit in RR is not to express pronoun negation, that is 'not-them',  but rather to mediate nominal negation for a nominal that they 'phorically' relate to.
--Dorothee 18:20, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
As for the glossing of baa, Mary writes:
Actually the *baa* 'they-not' should have had a 'did' in the middle of the English gloss, as it means 'they-(did)-not' (go) etc., likewise the other negative pronouns.
So, also for Konkomba baa, the meaning is not 'not-them', but rather something looking similar to the meaning suggested in the gloss for the Runyankore-Rukiga form.
--Lars Hellan 20:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)