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====Negative Marking in Runyankore-Rukiga====
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Runyankore-Rukiga is a Bantu languages spoken in Uganda.
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The negative particle is ''ti''. This prefix can occur attached to a pronoun which agrees anaphorically or cataphorically
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with a noun to express negation of noun phrases:
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<Phrase>10705</Phrase>
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sry, I would have to look up the noun class for flower in the example above :(, but the interesting point here is that we see the fusion of negation and a pronominal element. The function of this grammatical unit in RR is not to express pronoun negation, that is 'not-them',  but rather to mediate nominal negation for a nominal that they 'phorically' relate to.
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--[[User:Dorothee Beermann|Dorothee]] 18:20, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
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As for the glossing of ''baa'', Mary writes:
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Actually the *baa* 'they-not' should have had a 'did' in the middle of the
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English gloss, as it means 'they-(did)-not' (go) etc., likewise the other
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negative pronouns. 
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So, also for Konkomba ''baa'', the meaning is not 'not-them', but rather something looking similar to the meaning suggested in the gloss for the Runyankore-Rukiga form.
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--[[User:Lars Hellan|Lars Hellan]] 20:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:25, 16 December 2009

On negative marking in Konkomba

Is there a grammatical term for a lexical entry made up of two different parts of speech fused together? Could we call it a 'negative conjunction', or is there a more technical term?

I would suggest to annotate kaa and baa as follows:

Kaa
Kaa
kaa
 NEG
CONJ
baa
baa
baa
3PLNEG
PN


At the point were TypeCraft will allow to record base forms of words and morphemes it will also be possible to add that k has the base form ki and b has the base form bi.

--Dorothee 18:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


Negative Marking in Runyankore-Rukiga

Runyankore-Rukiga is a Bantu languages spoken in Uganda. The negative particle is ti. This prefix can occur attached to a pronoun which agrees anaphorically or cataphorically with a noun to express negation of noun phrases:

tikyo kirabyo
“It is not the flower”
tikyo
tikyo
NEG3SG
PN
kirabyo
kirabyo
flower
N


sry, I would have to look up the noun class for flower in the example above :(, but the interesting point here is that we see the fusion of negation and a pronominal element. The function of this grammatical unit in RR is not to express pronoun negation, that is 'not-them', but rather to mediate nominal negation for a nominal that they 'phorically' relate to. --Dorothee 18:20, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


As for the glossing of baa, Mary writes:

Actually the *baa* 'they-not' should have had a 'did' in the middle of the English gloss, as it means 'they-(did)-not' (go) etc., likewise the other negative pronouns.

So, also for Konkomba baa, the meaning is not 'not-them', but rather something looking similar to the meaning suggested in the gloss for the Runyankore-Rukiga form.

--Lars Hellan 20:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)